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Kabisadong Ring

Crazy Philippines Pickup Basketball Rules ft. Charles

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Welcome Charles & Episode 3 Kick-off!

Episode 3 of the podcast, titled “Kabisadong Ring”! Today, I’m thrilled to have my good friend Charles joining me. We met way back around 1998 at Riverside Community College (RCC), and ever since, whenever we connect, basketball is always the main topic. So, who better to have on for a basketball-themed episode? Thanks for being here, Charles!

Shout Outs & Feedback Loop

Before we dive in, a few shout-outs based on feedback from the first couple of episodes:

  • Jeff (JBTech Enterprise): He tripped out hearing on Episode 1 that I didn’t meet my own brother until he was two! Wild, right? Even close friends didn’t know that story.
  • Ernest: He texted after listening and is ready for me to take him and his wife to the Philippines next time I go! It sparked a thought about travel – I usually prefer visiting countries where I know a local, like my trips back home or that time friends showed us around Rosarito, Mexico (loved the seafood!). It just makes for a better, safer experience. Charles agrees!

The Philippines Basketball Scene

Okay, let’s talk hoops! Charles is a true Laker fan – like, since the 80s, pre-Shaq/Kobe! – so he knows his stuff.

The Philippines loves sports. Obviously, basketball is huge, but so are billiards (Efren Reyes is a legend!), volleyball (the women’s college games are intense!), boxing (Manny Pacquiao!), bowling, and tennis.Basketball has its own professional league, the PBA (Philippine Basketball Association). It’s like a 12-team league, with teams sponsored by major companies – the 2016 champs were the San Miguel Beermen! Yes, named after the beer. They have rules about “imports” (non-local players), often with height restrictions (like 6’5” or 6’9” depending on the tournament) and maybe requiring residency or dual citizenship. The last big name I remember playing there was Andray Blatche.

Filipinos Making Waves in US Basketball

We’ve got some Filipino representation in US hoops too, which is always cool to see!

  • Jordan Clarkson (Lakers): Half-Filipino descent, has dual US/PH citizenship. Solid player coming off the bench! Charles and I briefly compared him to Eddie Jones (offensively maybe, not defensively!).
  • Eric Spoelstra (Heat Coach): Also of Filipino descent. We tend to claim anyone with a drop of Filipino blood! (Like we did with Tiger Woods in golf!)
  • Kobe Paras (Creighton Bluejays): Son of PBA legend Benjie Paras. He was briefly at UCLA, now playing D1 ball at Creighton. Named after… well, you can guess! He looks promising.

The Wild World of Filipino Pickup Hoops (Kabisadong Ring!)

Now for the main event: comparing my experiences playing pickup basketball in the Philippines versus here in the US. There are some major differences.

  • Betting is Mandatory: I’ve never played a pickup game there without money or something on the line. Even if it’s just small change (like 10 pesos, maybe 20 cents US). Asking to play “just for fun” gets weird looks. It’s just how it is, maybe playing “for something” is the principle. Forget injury concerns – the pot wouldn’t cover medical bills anyway!
  • Subs Mid-Play?!: Pickup games often have substitutes! Sometimes it’s guys working nearby (like jeepney drivers/conductors on break) who might have to leave suddenly. Other times, smokers need a breather. They just run onto the court mid-play, hockey-style, but without clear rules. It gets confusing fast, especially when the guy you’re guarding suddenly vanishes!
  • Shoes Optional (Barefoot & Flip-Flops): Many players can’t afford shoes, prefer playing barefoot, or even play in flip-flops (“tsinelas”). Sometimes, being barefoot is better because courts (often painted cement/asphalt) can be dangerously slippery. Playing with shoes can make you stand out (“Oh, he must be American/rich”). I always feel bad if I accidentally step on someone’s bare foot after a rebound – throws my game off! Some guys even play with one flip-flop on, one off – maybe for dominant foot grip? Wild.
  • The Ball & The Rim (“Kabisadong Ring”): The ball is usually rubber (cheaper, lasts longer outdoors). The rims? Oh man. They can be lopsided, imperfect circles, bent, or vibrate like crazy. This is where “Kabisadong Ring” comes in – it’s a Tagalog phrase meaning you’re “used to” or “very familiar with” the rim. Locals who play on a specific court know exactly how the ball will bounce off that messed-up rim. They have a huge home-court advantage, making impossible-looking shots. Courts can also be dirt, and rim height isn’t always standard.
  • Full Court Rules: Games often go to 15 or 16, and you switch sides halfway through (e.g., at 8 points)! Inbounding is fast, often from anywhere, with no “check ball.” Forget setting screens; it’s mostly fast-paced ISO-ball.
  • Half Court Rules: Loser takes the ball out after a score (opposite of US). There’s no clearing the ball after a defensive rebound – you can just put it right back up! Scoring isn’t always clear (1s or 2s?), and they rarely call out the score. No “check ball” either. You gotta be ready!
  • Team Picking & No “Got Next”: Teams often form by matching up similar-sized players and doing rock-paper-scissors. Pre-existing teams are common too. The concept of “I got next” is rare because winners often leave (they won their money!), and losers often can’t afford to bet again. It’s usually one-and-done, unlike US parks where you can play for hours.

Final Thoughts with Charles

Charles was definitely surprised by some of these rules, especially the mandatory betting, lack of clearing, and mid-game subs. It’s a completely different environment and style of play – fast-paced, offense-heavy, and you definitely have to adjust. Even though I know these things, it still feels weird every time I go back and play. But hey, I just want to hoop, so if I have to pay to play (sometimes covering the whole team just to get a game going!), I’ll do it!

Tagalog Word in this episode

Kabisadong ring. Kabisadong or kabisado means “used to” or familiar. Ring means the basketball rim. It’s not really tagalog but it describes the shape of the rim, circle, which is the same shape of a ring. I chose this word because there’s part of the podcast where I describe the conditions of the rims there. They are wobbly, worn, unstable, bouncy. So if you’re familiar with the rim, you can basically throw up a brick but because you know the rim, more than likely it’ll bounce in.

Transcript

Hey everyone, this is Sherwin once again. This is episode 3, Cabizadong Ring, and I have a good friend of mine, Charles, over here. I met Charles back in RCC, Riverside Community College, back in 1998. Something like that, right, Charles? Yeah, that sounds about right.

Yeah, so we’ve known each other for a while, and every time we see each other, we always talk about basketball. So I figured I’d bring him on this episode so we could talk about basketball. So thank you, Charles, and I appreciate you joining me here. And before we get started, I just wanted to…

Give a couple of shout-outs to a couple of friends who gave me some feedback on previous episodes. I want to give a shout-out to Jeff from JB Tech Enterprise. Talked to him the other day, and he actually tripped out on the first episode when I said that I didn’t meet my brother until he was two years old. And he’s like, I’ve known him as long as I’ve known you, and he didn’t even know about that. Wow.

Yeah. And this is probably the first time you hear it. Because I don’t even talk about it much, but yeah. Also, Mario gave me a call the other day and had a couple of feedback. So he was mentioning that I should put like a translation on the title, because so far the titles that I’ve been using is like Tagalog words.

So episode three is about basketball. So I’m going to put that on the title. Yeah, wind your audience right there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

He was saying, and he had a good point, that if people just read the title, they may think the podcast is not in English. So, all right. So thank you, Mario. He is at MarioRDev on Twitter. And another shout-out to Ernest, who texted me the other day and checked out the other episodes.

So he’s like, next time you go to Philippines, please bring me. And I’m like, all right, man. You know, him and his wife want to go. So. That’s usually the thing.

Like, I also want to travel to other countries, but I don’t want to go unless, like, I’m meeting someone there that I’m, you know, I could trust. Oh, yeah. Like, Mexico is nearby, and I’d love to go to, I think, is it Rosarito again? But that’s like, like an hour beyond the border. So it’s like, I don’t want to go solo, man.

I got to bring somebody. Yeah, somebody who knows what’s going on around me. Yeah, yeah. So I don’t get lost. I don’t lose, you know, lose time.

And because the last time I was there, you know, we had we had friends that that brought us and it was cool. I liked it and love seafood. So, yeah, Rosarito. Yeah. So usually, like, if I got to travel to another country other than Philippines, you know, I need I need a local local person.

So, yeah, it gives you a whole better experience that way, too. Yeah, yeah. So and then finally, I just want to share with everyone my good friend Devin from high school. So he he has this I hope travel ball team. And so he’s looking for donations.

This is like nonprofit and he needs help. Basically, he helps the kids in the community to play basketball, keep them off the streets and just help them achieve something, you know. And but yeah, so so yeah, he’s he’s helping or he’s looking for help to to get some donations. Just check out the show notes for the link. And if you could just help him out, he’d appreciate it.

And I’d appreciate it. So so thanks for that. And thank you, Devin, for having this program for the kids. So anyway, yeah. So this is episode three.

And let’s get down to it. Basketball, right? Yeah. So Charles is probably one of the few people I know that I could say he’s a Laker fan, like a real Laker fan. You know, even without even without Kobe or Shaq, you are already a Laker fan.

Yeah, that’s that’s how I know it. Yeah. Ever since back in the 80s. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

You know, so, yeah, every time we we hang out, we always talk about basketball. So but yeah, I just wanted to talk about basketball and compare my experiences over in Philippines. And over here in America. So I guess to preface, like Philippines, the country itself loves sports. I mean, we enjoy basketball, obviously.

Billiards, pool, like we have a I guess he’s a champion, but I didn’t really look look into it. But Efren Reyes, he’s pretty known in in the in the sport and billiards and then volleyball or or and racquetball like Abby. Why? He watches the volleyball stuff. Yeah, dude, it’s it’s pretty crazy.

Like the women’s ones. I think they’re the college ones. Yeah, it’s like even the men’s ones. I don’t even want to get in the way of those when they spike it and stuff, man. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Ridiculous. Yeah. That ball be coming down. And they would jump high like, why don’t you play basketball, man?

You know, so and then we love boxing, you know, Manny Pacquiao. Of course, Pacquiao. Yeah. And bowling and tennis. So like a lot of sports.

We play a lot of sports. We enjoy a lot of sports. So the country itself loves love sports. So so I just want to talk about basketball and they have their own like basketball league. It’s called the PBA, Philippine Basketball Association.

I had to look this up, dude, because I don’t. I don’t know or I don’t keep keep up with the information. But good old Wikipedia helped me out. So, yeah. So there’s like 12 teams, man.

So imagine the NBA with like 12 teams. So, yeah, that’s what they have, 12 teams. And I believe they they play in two or four different arenas. That’s it. Not that many arenas.

And the teams are. Yeah. They’re like sponsored by different companies. So that sell like alcohol, food, communication services. So as a matter of fact, the defending champions of 2016 is the San Miguel Beerman.

So the Beerman. Yeah, the Beerman. You’ve seen San Miguel bottles, right? That’s like pretty common beer. No, no, I’m not.

I’m not. I’m not a beer drinker. I don’t like beer. I would. I like, you know, all the all the parties that we see each other.

You would see this. But I like alcohol. Yeah. I don’t like beer. Right, right, right.

Yeah. So that they are the 2016 champion, the Beerman. And like, yes, you are allowed to use that team name. You know, that’s crazy. And then I looked into some other information because you are allowed.

A team is allowed to have. Um, what are they called? Like, import, yeah, yeah. So, and I looked at the restrictions and I guess, um, depending on what tournament you’re playing, um, I guess you cannot be taller than six, five. Wow.

So, yeah, okay. And then there’s, I guess there’s another tournament where you cannot be taller than six, nine. So, and I think you’re limited to one or two imports per team. Um, don’t quote me on that though, but, uh, I, I’ve heard somewhere. Yeah.

I’ve been kind of introduced to that because right now our head coach is a former import. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, cool. For like 14 years.

Wow. Wow. Yeah. I, I think the, the last NBA or he used to play for the NBA that I heard about that plays over there is, uh, Andre Blach, I think. Oh, okay.

I remember him. Yeah. Yeah. And I think he was like with the wizards or something. Yeah.

The wizards. Yeah. He’s, he was in a couple of different teams, but that’s the last. That’s where I remember him from. Yeah.

Last. Yeah. And I believe you have to be a resident of the country. Like you can’t, you can’t just, um, you know, go there for the season. Yeah.

Yeah. I, again, don’t quote me on this, but I, I believe you have to be a resident or you have to have some sort of, um, stake. In the country, like something like that, like whether you’re, you’re like a resident or you’re trying to apply for dual citizenship or whatever, um, you have to do that. So, yeah, it’s pretty interesting looking up these, uh, these information and some that I’m just guessing and talking out of my butt, but, um, yeah, so in the NBA, um, there are a couple of people who have some sort of Filipino in them. Um, and so one of them.

is uh jordan clarkson who currently plays for the los angeles lakers your team but of course yeah yes he’s actually doing pretty good even though he’s coming is he still coming off the bench he is right yeah i believe he’s still off the bench yeah he should be a starter but yeah but i think they need they need more on the bench coming off the bench but i think he’s a pretty good player he reminds me of eddie jones right you think a little bit of like eddie jones i don’t know um yeah i guess offensively yeah he doesn’t play a lot of defense yeah eddie jones has some lockdown defense yeah yeah that that position his position is tough though especially in the western conference so yeah definitely yeah so i looked him up um he’s half black and his mom has or half filipino descent so in the pre-show we were talking about what does that mean you I’m like descent yeah he he fell from the sky he or is that descend yeah that’s descent oh my bad he has some descendants from oh there you go the philippines yeah but uh wikipedia also said he has dual citizenship between the u.s and philippines so that’s pretty interesting so he he does like have citizenship for both countries um i’ve heard of eddie jones and eddie jones but i don’t know if eddie jones has any citizenship yeah i’ve heard that he he may play uh for philippine the philippine team in is it not for the olympics i believe so or the summer or like the asian games or something or or fiba or yeah i think there was like some talk about that um as long as it doesn’t conflict with the nba schedule yeah so and then um the miami heat coach eric spolstra um is also half or descendant these descent something and you know you know man we gotta clinch on to that what what someone so some filipino guys spit at you oh man you’re with us you’re with us you got you got dna on you oh don’t don’t worry we did that with tiger woods it was like we got somebody in in golf now even though he half or a quarter whatever yeah just gotta get a little bit you gotta take it where you can get it exactly man but but it’s like we’re quick to let him go because nobody talks about eric spolstra now you know he’s not winning championships anymore no sir yeah yeah so so yeah so that’s just uh oh yeah one more thing um so in ncaa there is um this uh player uh benji paris his son uh kobe paris i don’t know if you’ve heard of him he’s a player he’s a player he’s a player of um um he was supposed to go to ucla but or he he was there for a year and um ended up now playing for the creighton blue jays um i think it’s the a big east team okay but um so yeah kobe paris and you know i’ll give you a guess on who he was named after but but at least he’s playing basketball yeah his dad his dad is a retired pba player um and he’s actually pretty good as far as i remember um so there’s like a huge like um you know chip on his shoulder right now like to prove himself but um i don’t know he’s he looks pretty good i mean he i think he needs to just add more weight but he’s he’s pretty quick he has some moves um but yeah he’s a point guard or a shooting guard oh man i don’t remember he he he’s like six six six six seven so he might be a shooting guard he might be a shooting guard or a small forward okay or a small forward yeah yeah his dad was a center i think or a power forward when he played um but yeah this this kid’s like he’s pretty quick i’ve seen some um those basketball videos but um but they’re all good anyway because they only show you the good stuff of course of course that’s the only way you gotta do it yeah yeah all right so that’s like a pretty long intro to to basketball but this is this one is the main topic uh i just want to talk about like the experiences that i um got when i was playing pickup games uh over in the philippines when i go there for vacation so um there’s some similarities but a lot of um differences and so let’s begin so the first thing i want to share with you is um in order to play a pickup game you have to bet you have to bet i i have yet to play a pickup game over there where it doesn’t involve either money or some sort of like you you just gotta give up something you have to bet yeah it it i’d never like i’ve asked people like what’s up man can we just can we just play for fun and they would look at you weird like no man and and it’s not like it’s it’s it’s a lot of money i mean i always like convert the uh the money to the dollar but i guess over there it’s you know um but it’s it’s still like it’s just change like even over there it’s like it’s change um but i i don’t i never quite understood uh why it’s just the principle of it i guess i guess or like oh play for something yeah yeah i don’t like yeah well let’s play for fun like isn’t isn’t that enough it’s like no yeah i don’t know i don’t know i don’t know i don’t know i was talking i can’t remember who i was talking to but um i guess one time a friend of mine was saying well they have to play for something just in case they get hurt and i’m like well don’t plan to get hurt you know like it’s like that’s not why we’re playing yeah and and on top of that it’s like well however much money even if you won all the money and all your your teammates gave up the money and you get hurt that ain’t gonna be enough to cover you know any any medical yeah like man so i don’t think i want to play with you if you’re gonna be all that serious dude like you know so yeah man like um they you have to bet so you’ll you’ll run to the court and then um you just have to drop some money and um but yeah and then that’s that’s how you play so is it like a pot for the whole the winning team yeah yeah so so let’s say um the the bet is uh 10 pesos per per player which is i think like 20 cents or something i don’t know it’s oh wow i mean for for for 10 pesos um you could probably buy like a stick of cigarette or you know maybe a water or something i don’t know i don’t know like i just okay i guess i have to come up with change or whatever to play um but yeah so that’s that’s how it starts and then um another thing i noticed their um their their in a pickup game there’s in a pickup game it it doesn’t it doesn’t happen all the time doesn’t happen all the time but um there there are substitutes and i i guess what i get out of it is um some of the the people that play they they play while they’re working and so like some people like in some courts that i play with play on um right next to it is is like a jeepney stop you know jeepney right yeah yeah the form of transportation there’s a a stop there right next to the court and so it’s it’s like a taxi stand like they have to wait in line or maybe the the driver is going to eat so some of the and they have conductors like who would handle you know passengers and getting the the fare and all that so some of these conductors while maybe the driver is eating uh lunch or they’re waiting in line to wait for their turn so that they could get passengers um they they would play a pickup game oh okay um so but but they need they need a substitute just in case like hey the driver’s bag we gotta go um so so that’s what i’ve noticed uh why some some people need substitutes but they they all have to they all have to chip in on on the bet so okay um and then the other other players they smoke right they smoke cigarettes but they play so some will just will run out of breath and and they’ll sub they’ll call sub right yeah and okay like they’ll just they’ll just run in like there’s no no dead ball like they’ll just run in so it’s like a hockey substitution yeah well at least in hockey you know there’s like a certain area where where you can come in like there’s still a rule there’s still a rule um so but it’s still going during play though yeah yeah yeah and and so there’s times like the guy i’m guarding would would get subbed and and then i lose because we all look alike doug like i don’t know who my man is anymore he’s like are you on my team yeah like no there was a couple of times i passed it to the wrong guy and he was a sub he went for the other team for the other team yeah and so i’m like when did he come in like you know so it’s it’s it’s a little confusing a little confusing but yeah there’s uh there’s there’s subs pretty interesting yeah uh so then here another thing that i’ve uh noticed well you just said something too that that’s kind of interesting you said you guys all look alike yeah you know that that’s that’s just totally different out here you know you play a pickup game it’s all different shades oh yeah yeah yeah so over there you’re playing with all filipinos yeah and then you say they all look alike so that that’s that’s gonna be that’s a little um so the next thing is what i noticed is um not everyone plays i mean because you know like some people can’t afford shoes so um or um the they they don’t want to play with shoes because they play better barefooted or they they’re used to playing um with flip-flops or slippers oh my goodness yeah yeah dude and actually in some courts you’re you’re better off playing barefooted um because the the court it’s like it’s like asphalt or cement and they paint over it um so the key oh dude be very careful yeah yeah so sometimes depending on on where you play at it’s um you’re better off playing barefooted um and then other people are just they’re just they just barefooted 24 seconds it’s like no matter where they’re playing yeah they just well they just they’re just barefooted they don’t got they don’t got shoes or whatever so sometimes this like messes me up because um like i’ll go for a rebound and i would wear shoes and um i would i would land on someone dude oh oh and i know i landed on someone man because it’s like you you jumping and then you land on a speed bump or something yeah yeah you feel it yeah you feel it and then and then it throws me off like you know i i could go outlet already on the ball but i would be concerned i’m like dude you all right dude you’re all right like but then i look and i’m like dude that’s your bad and so the play will be broken like i can’t play like you know the so i would always stop i would feel bad uh but and they probably look at you like like why are you not playing yeah it’s like it’s all good like dude i’m like 158 man i just landed on you i’m 158 pounds i’m kidding i’m 168 man maybe back then yeah maybe back then but you know i’m just i’m just conscious about you know other people um but yeah i mean it just always throws me off like so there’s times i i i try to um play without shoes and sometimes when you roll in the court with shoes dude like they’ll look at you like oh dang man you know like you’re american aren’t you or or he’s like he don’t work in the rice paddies or something right you know like yeah this guy’s rich like i don’t want i don’t want that perception dude so sometimes i’ll try to just um try to blend um but yeah so um so yeah that always throws me off but some of them would just play barefooted some of them will play with one one like flip-flop off and one barefooted what um and and i think it’s like their their dominant foot they’ll they won’t wear shoes i guess it’s just for that grip i don’t know i don’t know what it is like yeah what’s the advantage well shoes are a disadvantage in many of the courts though dude because it is slippery it’s scary and if you fall dude like man it’s a it’s a different fall man shoot because some some areas is like it’s just rocks oh wow so yeah so so i don’t know man you gotta change your style of play yeah hey i ain’t taking no charges i ain’t doing any fast breaks dude no thanks man i’ll just i’ll just pop a j or something i’m not driving in that slippery key yeah like call me call kyle corver yeah exactly exactly yeah so um yeah and then the the ball the ball is usually rubber it’s not leather okay so outdoor yeah it’s cheaper and uh it lasts longer than leather outside anyway yeah exactly so but yeah so you would mess up your finger sometimes and jam it easily because of the rubber so just be careful with that um now what about the nets do they have nets or chains or wire yeah some some uh some have nets and then sometimes the the rim is lopsided it’s not even a perfect circle um and so i’m glad i’m glad you mentioned that um so so the title of this podcast is called kabisadong ring so the word kabisadong is means um used to used to right like you’re you’re familiar you’re very familiar oh okay okay yeah so so in the translation would be like uh i am very familiar with the rim all right and so what that means is so like how i explained it sometimes the the the rim is lopsided or it’s an imperfect circle or um it’s not um like screwed in well like it it bounces a lot or it vibrates a lot so yeah so if you play ball in that course you’re going to be able to like you’ll get used to that rim and it’s a huge advantage because throw up the ball dude just don’t airball it throw it up it’s a good chance it’ll bounce in it’s insane yeah like i could never i could never get used to that because you know i just yeah but the the locals like if they play ball there a lot um they are just so used to they know where to make that ball bounce yeah um and like they’ll some of the bank shots you’re like how’d that go in how yeah but they know they know it goes in like they know it goes in like the angles is so horrible but it it makes that rim vibrate or bounce and then it will knock the ball in oh my god so yeah that’s home court advantage it sure is it sure is and then um yeah so some courts are are just dirt too it’s just dirt um so yeah so but that that’s like the the whole um court conditions there it’s all different and then sometimes the the rim isn’t even the regular size so you would be playing with a mini ball oh wow yeah but but like whatever you can do huh yeah because like we love basketball like the you know many people in that country just just love it and it’s like an easy sport to i guess start like you could just turn anything into a rim or a hoop mm-hmm and then you just get a ball like everyone has a ball you know so so yeah um so the the other thing so there’s full court and half court right so whenever we whenever i play like full court pickup games um we switch sides really like yeah half yeah halfway yeah no for real like halfway i think usually we play we play to uh 15 or 16 and then we play to 15 or 16 and then we play to 15 and like eight points seven points or eight points um first team that scores that and then and then we switch we switch uh switch uh court we switch sides oh wow yeah it’s crazy and then um you trying to keep it real yeah and and when you inbound the ball after a dead play like you got you gotta you gotta pay attention because they’ll just they’ll throw it in they’ll just throw it in and and it’s not like on top of the key it’s not like on top of the key it’s not like on top of the key or whatever it’s it’s pretty much like wherever they feel like it or wherever that ball uh goes out of play i guess um they’ll just throw it in and so like the first couple times i’d start play i could never get used to it because i’m like hey what happened to check ball and when i say something like that a lot of times they don’t know what check ball is um yeah so i mean there’s people who know who know about that but you know but you just gotta like adjust it’s hard to adjust um so yeah yeah and and dude some of them are quick dude like like three steps from half court and they’re on a layup or something oh wow yeah they’re they’re quick they’re they’re really quick so so i don’t know and they and those are the ones that play barefooted like they just go real quick yeah so what will be the style of play is just like all high fast tempo play or yes yes um normally here we’ll like we’ll we’ll set up screens right even pickup games we’ll set up screen and we’ll like we’ll we’ll tap on our our shoulder like come this way and um you know and then we’ll call picks like you know on your right on your left or whatever yeah yeah usually i mean not all the time but yeah you get mad if they don’t call it yeah i’ve played with people here and they you know like i appreciate when people call picks because if man yeah you run into something oh my goodness yeah and then it’s like i thought we were teammates man you didn’t get my back dude yeah but over there like they’re not like you’ll you’ll set a pick for them they won’t use it they won’t use it like i don’t know if they think that i’m just trying to get the ball from them or or what but oh okay yeah so i’ll set up screens or whatever and it’s like don’t even bother because they’ll just you know it’s iso it’s all iso like get away get away yeah i got this i know where to bounce the ball it’s cool it’s like i don’t need your help yeah get my rebound if i miss yeah um so that’s like that’s what i noticed on full court and then like half court um half court loser takes out the ball every point oh really yeah here it’s it’s winners okay unless unless you you define the rules before you play right but yeah but over there it’s fault it’s winners yeah default yeah if you don’t mention it it’s it’s you know it’s winners um but over there loser takes out the ball so you know of course there’s times where i would take out the ball and like what are you doing it’s our ball you know like we just scored i know you know like oh okay it’s our turn yeah it’s our turn to try to score now and then um yeah yeah so you know maybe there’s less chance for uh a shutout or something i don’t know yeah yeah but um yeah and then normally they don’t check ball so i guess i guess here we you know we don’t check ball but but that’s usually like before we play we we just say like all right no check ball unless it’s you know blah blah but usually when when we take out the ball up top like we’ll check the ball or something yeah just to make sure everyone’s ready you know or like it’s a sign for for everyone to like look i’m checking the ball you know get ready ball game is go it’s live yeah or like if someone’s tying their shoe and then you check the ball your teammate better turn around and like okay he’s still tying his shoe like hold the ball you know yeah yeah there’s for the most part there’s no check ball over there so another confusing thing so they just go yeah yeah and yeah and they’ll they’ll inbound the ball like pretty much anywhere which is confusing so and then um so on half court games normally when uh change possession rebound right we bring it we bring it out uh up top yeah you gotta bring it out yeah you clear it right uh-huh they don’t clear it there so like the they could just shoot it right back yeah yeah so one team shoots he breaks opposite team rebounds he can he can tap it back in like he could he could just bring it back in i didn’t even know this dude you don’t even know how many people get pissed at me because like i would bring it back in and it up top like i would clear the board and and they’re like put it up and but your brain is programmed to you know like you got to bring it back like let it reset like this is just we’re being fair like just yeah yeah because if it was full court you couldn’t shoot on the same court you have to go to the other side so yeah you just gotta clear it and plus like you gotta reset reset the offense and then let the other team reset i mean it’s just you know trying to be fair but whatever but yeah over there you don’t have to um you don’t have to clear it so you gotta be on your toes all the time yeah yeah yeah you do yeah you do so and then you gotta um talk to him about like hey so is it two points per per bucket or one point per bucket or what because here i mean it’s just it’s always one point yeah and then you shoot a three it’s a two point two point thing um or or we just say everything everything’s one you know yeah they don’t matter but those are usually established before we play but over there like you don’t even know if they’re counting by twos or if they’re counting by ones so and then um like every time we change possession we’ll we’ll like just call out the call out the score usually just to make sure like no one’s miscounting man yeah like we made we made two baskets yeah yeah exactly exactly yeah over there it’s like i i would have to do it because i’m just used to it so i got 10 pesos on the line man i gotta make sure no one’s cheating like i want to go get i want to get my water exactly exactly man you know i don’t want to lose that shoot if that was here it’d be even more arguments that be happening oh dude tell me about it dog because because with nothing on the line there’s a whole bunch of arguments over here yeah it’s like that’s not a foul that’s traveling man that’s man that’s not traveling that’s three steps it’s euro step like we ain’t in europe we ain’t in europe it’s like i did a yeah yeah pro hop penny hardaway did that like why can’t i like you ain’t penny hardaway man exactly and you ain’t even doing it like him yeah and then and then you get into after the argument then you get into like no no see this is how you do it and it’s like oh here we go demonstration time like oh come on let’s just play dude ball up top come on i was like we’re just doing this for fun right no agents out here ain’t no money on the line yeah yeah no cameras no audience yeah you ain’t getting the contract out here come on man yeah so um so yeah that’s that’s um that’s what i’ve experienced whenever i play pickup games there okay um so i thought it would be fun to bring you on one of the people i always talk basketball to so what do you think man man shoot i would be like you i would be confused for a while just trying to figure out what’s going on i would be upset though on some of those things it was like not especially the clearing the clearing come on now that don’t make it it doesn’t make any sense yeah i’m like it’s like if if we’re playing losers i understand you’re being right but how is it that if i shoot the ball and the other team get it you could just shoot it right back up there yeah and and nobody people are lazy to rebound too so you know no one’s gonna be there yeah exactly so i’ll be ticked off if i have people on my team who just be shooting the basketball i’m like man you better be making it or make sure that one of us is down there to get a rebound yeah yeah man and it’s fast paced too like they just they just gun it so just running gun yeah just running good so they probably like dan tony dan tony yep yep new york new york nick right there man he’s like let’s go seven second offense seven second offense yeah wait is he the new yorker nick coach right or is he uh where is he at dang now i gotta look that up no he he’s with the the rockets right with uh james harden right oh i don’t know is he he’s somewhere yeah he’s somewhere running why did i think he was in the knicks was he a nick coach before no he was dan tony was he was the sons then he was the lakers and then i have to look it up now i think he’s with the rockets with with um with uh yep you’re right you’re right houston yeah james harden yeah i had to look that up work yeah they say it’s working with him now that’s what why i remember yeah yeah so that’s that’s the that’s the style man it’s just all offense no defense and don’t get hurt yeah and put some money down put something down and put something down yeah over here man you don’t play d man they’re good they’re gonna be all over your man’s being you your man’s banking you switch out switch out yeah exactly like you want me to guard them yeah it’s like you you good you good i’ll guard them yeah yeah it’s like crazy yeah so that’s yeah that’s that’s the um what i’ve experienced there um it’s fun i mean i love i love to play basketball and just playing somewhere else too you know and there’s times like i want to i want to say stuff but like i know how to speak tagalog but um i’m i’m slower at it i’m slower at it because it’s not my no longer my primary language but i do know how to speak it but every time um i have to talk or say something like there’s a there’s like a transition in in my body in my head like first first i gotta say it in my head in english and then my brain has to translate it and then i just say it but sometimes dude like i i try to do direct translation it it don’t make sense to them and then i’ll think about i was like oh yeah that doesn’t make any sense yeah because you’re saying it in the english format yeah yeah yeah yeah so i don’t yeah so they’ll look at me weird like well i don’t know what to tell you dude yeah i just passed me the ball yeah how do they uh do with the picking of the teams and stuff or yeah how they usually they um usually like they they know each other there and and they always run the same team um or actually or um so there’s 10 people like let’s say we’re playing full court we match up we match up uh like body size and everything and we’ll stand in front of each other and we’ll do rock rock paper scissors no we’re gonna we’re not gonna punch each other but uh we’ll do like rock paper scissors um and that’s how you yeah there’s no like uh team captains or um let’s let’s shoot and first first three or first five and then the rest is the other team whatever yeah it’s it’s either like they they already got their team and you just you know you just pick up people um and then um or or you match up like you you find uh you find a person similar size um and then you do rock paper scissors and they’ll say all right winners on this side losers on that side oh wow yeah and then to determine to take out the ball i think it is you still gotta shoot for it to take out okay yeah that one’s the same yeah so that’s interesting yeah see i’m saying huh uh-huh yeah yeah because i’m like i just think of how they do it over here you know but yeah mostly over here people have their own teams but like if you’re walking up to a game it’s like hey i got next or you want to run with me kind of stuff that’s how it goes like over there the got next thing there there’s no such thing well it’s rare that there is a got next because everyone’s tired there’s a got next but it’s like 10 20 minutes later that’s your sub yeah yeah or or people that won already like they done man they won their money they’re out or is that right yeah and then they don’t run the next game and then the people that lose they’re like well there goes my money for the day so i can’t play again because i gotta put up money oh see so you can’t just play basketball all day no no it’s it’s like unfortunate so you really like there’s more than money on the line it’s like you just gotta yeah yeah i mean there’s like i got next but you’re gonna be waiting like you’ll be waiting for the whole next round of people yeah yeah the next two teams like because the the two that just played either team ain’t gonna play anymore because either you know one’s like ready to go eat because he came up on some change yeah or the other team like i ain’t got no money bro so i can’t play like well but that’s the thing like we don’t have to play for money but nope yeah play for money and then it’s like yes we do yeah yeah it’s like why else am i playing right right that’s so that’s weird it is oh dude i’m telling you and even if if i go go back and play like and i i know all this stuff that i’ve shared it it still is weird to me it still is weird to me but you know you’re in a different place you just gotta respect you know how do you play and i just want i just want to play like if i gotta pay to play whatever dude and i’ve lost games like it’s not it’s no big deal i don’t care about losing the money it’s like it’s not like i’m balling like i got money but yeah but you know as you say i mean it’s like i’m going to the arcade basically right yeah yeah exactly but still like i just i just want to play i mean if i have to pay to play i guess whatever man like sometimes i’ll i’ll just cover i’ll cover the entire team like my team because some of them like we won’t have enough like like oh hey you want to run like oh dude i ain’t got no money like dude just come on that’s all right look i got like i just i just want to play why is it so hard and then like or sometimes like um you know um we we got our team and no one wants to play against us because they got no i’m like dude just come on don’t even worry about yeah i’ll put it up for both teams yeah yeah well i’m not gonna play against you i’m not gonna play against you no i just say look if we win don’t worry about it if we lose i’ll pay you guys like but but that’s what you have to do like it doesn’t i don’t know doug like i just want to play man i’m on vacation i want to run i got time to run you know like i just i just want to run i want to play game you know yeah but that’s the thing it’s like usually when when you finish the game that’s it like you can’t continue to play maybe you’ll play like threes like your team and then they’ll find another person because this is your team like you probably went to the court with them so some of them are like cool they don’t have you don’t have to put up money because you guys are friends or whatever um but yeah like that you’ll you’ll probably run threes after that but beyond that it’s hard to find another game afterwards the the next if there is a game afterwards it’s two different teams like winner don’t stay on the court winner don’t stay on the court winner is yeah because they have to yeah because they they got their money yeah yeah wow yeah yeah like here man we go to the park do we’re there for hours man yeah exactly you just keep running it’s like just keep running how many oh it’s like we won five straight yeah yeah yeah you’re like yeah keep going and sometimes you win and like i gotta go home but you winning so it’s like i’m gonna play this last game yeah yeah that last game ends up being three games exactly so because i remember with my wife sometimes she’s like why are you where you at i’m like i was playing basketball yeah we was winning so i wasn’t gonna leave when we lit yeah or if you lose the first one then you gotta wait you gotta wait and sometimes you gotta wait two games like who got next you got your five yeah all right i got next after he was like no bro i got next after him you got your five yeah i’m like oh dang man so you gotta wait two games exactly yeah gotta get some game in yeah or like you’re winning and he’s like i gotta go and do no no just stay for one stay that one becomes like two that becomes three like oh man exactly yeah it’s not not over there man one and done one and done one and done so yeah wow so that’s yeah that’s that’s that’s about it that’s all i i could remember off the top i mean i even had to take notes on some of these too so i don’t so i don’t forget but um but yeah yeah so thank you charles i appreciate you joining me on um this episode no this is fun yeah yeah educational for me to learn about another how they do it over there in the philippines yeah and i don’t even have imagine yeah hopefully we could do some other stuff and um yeah yeah this is fun see normally i’d be done in like 20 minutes but like having people so i could conversate with them and um have more content um but yeah so i’d like to thank charles once again thank you sir no problem and it’s fun yeah every time we talk man this is hilarious so um but that’s it thank you for joining us today and we’ll see you next time thank you Bye.

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